Piracetam is eliminated via the kidneys and care should thus be taken in cases of renal insufficiency (see section 4.2). So you really need to understand the role of Glutamate, NMDA, and AMPA for your circumstances. Phenylpiracetam (AKA phenotropil or phenotropyl) is a phenyl derivative of piracetam. I placed a moratorium on continued experimentation until I'd taken the time to better understand how piracetam, oxiracetam, and amphetamine could interact at glutamate receptors. This is just a panic attack. Its name is derived from its ability to be activated by the artificial glutamate analog AMPA. I did a quick search and didn't see anything. There seems to be a lack of empirical information on of amp/mph and racetam combinations. It’s made out of four salts of the two enantiomers of amphetamine. However, you may feel a mild lift after using it. The official purpose of Adderall is to treat ADHD and narcolepsy. That takes care of your mitochondrial support, ATP transport, antioxidant support, excitotoxicity prevention/tolerance control, GABA modulation, and circadian rhythm. It is my hope that cannabis may prove to limit the impact of any possible glutamate excitotoxicity while simultaneously boosting attention and euphoria (for good measure). Did you dose multiple times through out the day? I realized I have been taking these nootropics too lightly, I take them every day like they are vitamins and they're not. Once again science forgoes a potential benefit to society by remaining caught up with recreational users of substances. Worst side effects were lethargy, irritability. 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Next time take vitamin c to counter the amphetamine with your magnesium. I love Pramiracetam, as it helps my memory a ton. ._1x9diBHPBP-hL1JiwUwJ5J{font-size:14px;font-weight:500;line-height:18px;color:#ff585b;padding-left:3px;padding-right:24px}._2B0OHMLKb9TXNdd9g5Ere-,._1xKxnscCn2PjBiXhorZef4{height:16px;padding-right:4px;vertical-align:top}._1LLqoNXrOsaIkMtOuTBmO5{height:20px;padding-right:8px;vertical-align:bottom}.QB2Yrr8uihZVRhvwrKuMS{height:18px;padding-right:8px;vertical-align:top}._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0{font-size:14px;font-weight:500;line-height:18px;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._1LLqoNXrOsaIkMtOuTBmO5,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._2B0OHMLKb9TXNdd9g5Ere-,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._1xKxnscCn2PjBiXhorZef4,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 .QB2Yrr8uihZVRhvwrKuMS{fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)} So I was using Piracetam sporadically for past 2-3 weeks, at the beginning I thought it is just a hyped up nootropic or maybe not potent at 800mg-1200mg dose or ineffective in comparison to other racetams (I have never tried any other racetam.) Okay, so this is an anecdotal report, but I ask that you believe me when I say I am well experienced with dexedrine and piracetam. When first trying piracetam I didn't experience any perceivable effects for like a month. /u/Synzael of Ceretropic made some generally helpful comments in another thread mentioning that mixing the racetams would lead to quicker tolerance buildup which puts me in a bind as I love the improvements I get from piracetam + noopept and don't want to have to trade them off. ._2a172ppKObqWfRHr8eWBKV{-ms-flex-negative:0;flex-shrink:0;margin-right:8px}._39-woRduNuowN7G4JTW4I8{border-top:1px solid var(--newCommunityTheme-widgetColors-lineColor);margin-top:12px;padding-top:12px}._3AOoBdXa2QKVKqIEmG7Vkb{font-size:12px;font-weight:400;line-height:16px;-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;background-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);border-radius:4px;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-direction:row;flex-direction:row;margin-top:12px}.vzEDg-tM8ZDpEfJnbaJuU{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-button);fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-button);height:14px;width:14px}.r51dfG6q3N-4exmkjHQg_{font-size:10px;font-weight:700;letter-spacing:.5px;line-height:12px;text-transform:uppercase;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-pack:justify;justify-content:space-between}._2ygXHcy_x6RG74BMk0UKkN{margin-left:8px}._2BnLYNBALzjH6p_ollJ-RF{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;margin-left:auto}._1-25VxiIsZFVU88qFh-T8p{padding:0}._3BmRwhm18nr4GmDhkoSgtb{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-bodyText);-ms-flex:0 0 auto;flex:0 0 auto;line-height:16px} My tongue is lets just say much more flexible I can spell out quicker without it getting entangled in difficult words and flow of ideas into mouth is so much more synchronized and … Using Phenylpiracetam helps improve cognitive function and ability, while Adderall is a psychostimulant used for treating ADHD and narcolepsy. Then it became more consistent, but no panic/mania or anxiety when combined with stimulants. 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Also, just start out with piracetam for the time being and see how it effects you before you shell out money for the aniracetam. ._33axOHPa8DzNnTmwzen-wO{display:block;padding:0 16px;width:100%}.isNotInButtons2020 ._33axOHPa8DzNnTmwzen-wO{font-size:14px;font-weight:700;letter-spacing:.5px;line-height:32px;text-transform:uppercase} TLDR; Search helps a lot. Eventually he got cut off by his doctor, but he went nuts and went to like 8 doctors before he found one that would prescribe him again. ?, and ~11mg respectively) for short periods of time and noticed a profound amplification of my linguistic, mathematical, and memory-related faculties. They feel similar. ... Like Adderall, aniracetam has mood-enhancing effects, but they are created in a sustainable … Has anyone put down an Adderall + noots FAQ? I usually take about 800mg piracetam with about 10mg of adderall. - posted in Brain Health: Im prescribed 10mg Adderall IR twice a day. Aniracetam vs. Piracetam. Will never repeat again. Piracetam and Adderall. Some nootropic compounds like Noopept and piracetam can actually improve brain health. As a water-soluble racetam, it is not as bioavailable as the others, leading to a need to take more of it to feel an effect. But that’s not all, a closer look at its formulation reveals that it can also function as an energy booster just the same way Adderall does. Piracetam potentiates amphetamines. Not a panic attack. It's made me sleep while on amphetamine. Meaning: you can find a nootropic stack that’s CLOSE to Adderall, but not quite there. I would say don't and do a lot more research. /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/ReredditLink.f7b66a91705891e84a09.css.map*/Glutamate receptors, such as the NMDA receptor or the AMPA receptor, bind glutamate and are activated. It's calmed me incredibly. Confidence like you wouldn’t believe. NMDAR is a specific type of ionotropic glutamate receptor. Adderall is a type of dextroamphetamine and amphetamine combination used to treat ADHD. AMPA (α-amino-3-hydroxy-5-methyl-4-isoxazolepropionic) refers to one of three glutamate receptors in your brain.. I would also make sure that my diet contained the appropriate levels of tyrosine and creatine, or I would supplement those too. You could have an excitoxicity issue or too much caffiene. ... No, unlike stimulants such as Adderall, noopept will not get you high. All I can say is just give it a try and see if you like it. " Phenylpiracetam’s chemical resemblance to Adderall is responsible for creating effects that can be compared to … Amphetamine Neurotoxicity Supplementation. I used to be prescribed dex, I have taken it 100's of times and mixed it alcohol, psychedelics, caffeine, you name it. It's complicated(TM) and in the end it's really something you have to evaluate on an individual basis to find what works for you. It was developed by the Russian Academy of Sciences as a more potent version of piracetam that also creates noticeable stimulatory effects. It would seem to me, at this current time, that piracetam boosts the effects of amphetamine, but not to the extent you describe. Ultimately it comes down to Dopamine, Norepinephrine, and Serotonin. Discussion of nootropics and cognitive enhancers. You should not mix Piracetam with stimulants like Adderall, Ritalin, Concerta or Vyvanse. Amphetamine is consistent and has negatives but piracetam can be sketchy and unpredictable. I'm a regular vaper and I imagine that is significant. With regards to choosing the best Adderall alternative, you must understand that there is no one-size-fits-all choice that can go well for everyone. There is st least one study that I know of confirming that. It's given me panic attacks. This causes decreased GABA release and disinhibits AMPA and mGlu. 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